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Gingrich: 'You Can't Put a Gun Rack on a Volt' | Video Cafe

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With unemployment and the economy improving, Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has turned to attacking President Barack Obama on the price of gas.

At a campaign event in Suwanee, Georgia, the former House Speaker told supporters that he would bring back cheaper gas because "you can't put a gun rack on a Volt."

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Roy Batty

It sounds like Newt want to nationalize the oil industry.

  • 30 votes
#1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:13 PM EST
Smith Cassidy

Because so many of us need a place for our rifles when we go out driving...

  • 29 votes
#1.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 PM EST
Dennis Kemmerer

Roy Batty wrote:

It sounds like Newt

Who?

Seriously, it seems ol' Gingrich hasn't gotten the memo that his turn as the punchbowl floater is over. Come to think of it, Paul's the only hopeful left who hasn't had a shot at that spot, unless the GOP is actually desperate or crazy enough (or both) to completely annihilate itself with a brokered convention.

I heard some of the NBC commentators this morning hinting that there are rumblings within the RNC to modify the primary process for the 2016 cycle. It seems they may have begun to realize that Citizens United is doing nothing more than allowing a field of not too well liked hopefuls to loudly and publicly hose each other down, and you can bet Plouffe and his crowd are taking notes.

Romney's no prince, but, an improving economy and rising Obama approval ratings aside, if the Republicans hope to have any chance of competing with Obama, they're soon going to have to start giving some serious thought to throwing Gingrich, Santorum and Paul under the proverbial bus.

  • 15 votes
#1.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:06 PM EST
Roy Batty

if the Republicans hope to have any chance of competing with Obama, they're soon going to have to start giving some serious thought to throwing Gingrich, Santorum and Paul under the proverbial bus.

For what I have gleaned from here and there, the to Republican Party leadership is quite unhappy with the current state of affairs. They have in fact lost control of a situation that in the past they directed. What they are faced with is a party that seems to be digging their collective grave deeper and deeper.

The roguishness of the candidates is in part a result of Citizens United. Pushed and praised by the right, this ruling has come around to bite them in the butt. And the extremism demonstrated by the likes of Santorum, Gingrich and Paul only paints the entire party with the same brush.

Once, the Republicans feared a brokered convention, that it could be the worst thing to happen. Now it seems it would be their last great hope, to run someone new who could denounce all the rhetoric of the current players, someone to try to wash the candidacy clean.

Even if Romney survives, he will be remembered as being part of that bunch. The GOP is in one hell of a pickle.

  • 18 votes
#1.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 PM EST
Dennis Kemmerer

Roy Batty wrote:

it would be their last great hope, to run someone new who could denounce all the rhetoric of the current players, someone to try to wash the candidacy clean.

I really can't see that happening because, as I said in another thread, they waited most of last year for Godot to show up. It's really unlikely at this late stage that someone with enough money, organization and name recognition who hasn't already been considered is going to suddenly fall out of the sky.

  • 11 votes
#1.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:52 PM EST
Roy Batty

It's really unlikely at this late stage that someone with enough money, organization and name recognition who hasn't already been considered is going to suddenly fall out of the sky.

Realistically, I agree. All they can do now is pray for hope and change.

  • 11 votes
#1.5 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:04 PM EST
Porter Rockwell

I've been predicting a brokered convention since last November. (Check my article in my Vine column: "Inevitable Romney?") I even picked the guy they're going to pick. I've been interested to notice how more and more people are moving in the direction of thinking that might actually be what happens.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:21 PM EST
lamplighter

At 42000 dollars a copy and 40 miles to the charge that's an awful expensive statement that you're commited to being green. They always said the a Chevy was a poor man's Cadillac, now GM's changed the rules and created a rich man's Chevy.

Thanks but no thanks GM but I'll pass and keep driving my F250.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:22 PM EST
Roy Batty

At 42,000 dollars a copy and 40 miles to the charge that's an awful expensive statement that you're commited to being green.

You are right. I couldn't drive it just for the range limit alone.

  • 7 votes
#1.8 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:26 PM EST
lamplighter

The Volt is a really nice looking car. If they took ou the battery and lawn mower engine to charge it...and put the 2.0 EcoTech in it ...and priced it similar to a Cruze, they would probably sell a ton of them.

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:31 PM EST
Greenwood10

Gingrich: 'You Can't Put a Gun Rack on a Volt'

Not only that but you can't come up with good reason to buy one in the first place.

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:37 PM EST
MJMullinII

You are right. I couldn't drive it just for the range limit alone.

You can't drive a vehicle with a 500+ mile range?!?

Are you going to work or planning Intercontinental Operations!? :)

  • 9 votes
#1.11 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:44 PM EST
Roy Batty

You can't drive a vehicle with a 500+ mile range?!?

With only 40 battery miles available and a 87-mile round trip it just does not make that much sense to me. I'm still using gas most of the way.

But I would buy one of these in a heartbeat.

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:59 PM EST
Canadian Dave

Newt emits cheap gas every time he speaks.

  • 13 votes
#1.13 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:04 PM EST
Jim420

you can't park a combine in a parking garage either... Newt.. farmers ain't the customers going to be buying a volt....

you can't park an oil drilling rig in a garage either... so I guess whatever you're point about the volt applys to everything...

  • 9 votes
#1.14 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:12 PM EST
SeattleBrian

With only 40 battery miles available and a 87-mile round trip it just does not make that much sense to me. I'm still using gas most of the way.

Are you sure you're not confusing the Volt with the (Nissan) Leaf? The Volt has a range of close to 400 miles-- the first 40 or so on battery; when the battery runs down a gas engine kicks in to generate electricity for the motor, getting 35-40 MPG..

  • 8 votes
#1.15 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:31 PM EST
buckeyenut-2225921

when the battery runs down a gas engine kicks in to generate electricity for the motor, getting 35-40 MPG..

I can do that with a Volkswagen TDI and don't have to worry about the battery cost.

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:00 PM EST
Greenwood10

when the battery runs down a gas engine kicks in to generate electricity for the motor, getting 35-40 MPG..

My '87 Escort GT got 40-45 mpg and was pretty quick at that time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_i2rEsHi0

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:05 PM EST
jfxgillis

buckeyenut:

I just went to your homepage and saw to my shock that I'm your only friend. Can't have that. I'm a left-wing pinko hippie Obot. Makes you look bad

You need more friends. And to learn how to use the conversation tracker at the top left of this page.

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:18 PM EST
Z1P2

My '87 Escort GT got 40-45 mpg and was pretty quick at that time.

You are such a liar:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/1987_Ford_Escort.shtml

  • 7 votes
#1.19 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:30 PM EST
SpoxLogic

Roy Batty, if what you said is true, then the VOlt would never sell. The battery mileage is on a battery alone - but please note that the volt isn't a purely electric car - it is a hybrid. So, other than the price tag, I don't see much difference ebtween it and any other pure gasoline car.

Besides, if you go back in history, there was a time when folks used to poo-poo the gas automobile and it was only afordable to the rich. THen they learned how to mass produce them and well, the rest is history. If GM could figure out how to get the price down into the $20K range (what most cars are going for now), I bet more folks would go for it - since they can save on gas. Besides, no matter what folks say, we are running out of fossil fuels due to increased world consumption. Just wait until more 3rd world nations come up to speed industrially and you'll see how fast we run out.

So either we start the process now of being able to go to renewable energy or start paying the piper in 50 years or so. Of course most folks don't care about 50 years from now since they figure they'll be dead, but that outlook is pretty ignorant and selfish, IMHO.

  • 2 votes
#1.20 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:32 PM EST
Z1P2

Because so many of us need a place for our rifles when we go out driving...

Considering how the wall street bankers that Newt serves are hellbent on making us all homeless, we might in fact need a place to put them while out driving...

  • 3 votes
#1.21 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:33 PM EST
82AllAmericans

"You Can't Put a Gun Rack on a Volt." hmmm, maybe not, but if you flush enough and if you have a good plunger you can eventually get that monster turd to go down the toilet... too bad you can't say the same about Newt.

Sorry for the graphics folks, but this guy deserves it.

  • 4 votes
#1.22 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:33 PM EST
Greenwood10

My '87 Escort GT got 40-45 mpg and was pretty quick at that time.

You are such a liar:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/1987_Ford_Escort.shtml

I owned the car, I know what I got.

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:43 PM EST
Z1P2

I owned the car, I know what I got.

I know how to look up the truth on unbiased websites, so I know you're full of @!$%#.

  • 9 votes
#1.24 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:50 PM EST
rimbauda

http://www.loremo.com/englisch/index.htm

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2008/02/150-mpg-non-hyb.html

    #1.25 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:01 PM EST
    DR_ZORBA

    Maybe he was driving down hill most of the time.....LOL.

    • 4 votes
    #1.26 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:05 PM EST
    cowboygrandpa

    Gingrich again shows that he has no clue and is a racist idiot.

    Damn Newt, I can't put a gun rack in a Kia Rio either. But then again, with the economy the way it is I can't afford to drive my 4x4 anymore.

    Here is a clue "lizard" it's the economy stupid !!!!

    • 7 votes
    #1.27 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:13 PM EST
    mountainmike-1199289

    Since when did Grinch have a gun rack on anything at all?

    Well, maybe they could put rechargeable tasers on a Volt.

    His current mistress may want to invest in something like that.

    • 6 votes
    #1.28 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:25 PM EST
    Louie Lou

    I know how to look up the truth on unbiased websites, so I know you're full of @!$%#.

    They're always in here trying to lie. No surprise here.

      #1.29 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:29 PM EST
      stormshadow

      told supporters that he would bring back cheaper gas because "you can't put a gun rack on a Volt."

      LMAO. Newter is still good for the comic relief line isn't he?

      HOW exactly does he plan to "bring back cheaper gas prices?" oh wait.. that would require him to say something of SUBSTANCE rather than a dog whistle phrase only meant to inspire the racist rednecks in the audience!

      Hell I'll guarantee you this- the average person in that crowd only heard a couple words-

      "Gas, and gun rack!" The fact there was NO substance to that comment? meaningless! The only word missing from that statement was throwing Gawd in it. (and maybe moonshine for good measure)

      • 3 votes
      #1.30 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:35 PM EST
      MJMullinII

      I can do that with a Volkswagen TDI and don't have to worry about the battery cost.

      You'll have to replace those batteries at about the same pace as the engine in your Volkswagen.

      P.S. -- My Cobalt gets the same mileage as your TDI but I only pay $3.20 per gallon to do it :)

        #1.31 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:34 PM EST
        demmie-1555521

        Canadian Dave

        Newt emits cheap gas every time he speaks.

        I'll be laughing all day from that comment.

        • 5 votes
        #1.32 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:00 AM EST
        Roy Batty

        Roy Batty, if what you said is true, then the VOlt would never sell.

        Paying a premium for a hybrid that relies on gas after 40 miles is a value proposition that just does not appeal to me. I am all for electric or hybrids in concept, and when my current car's life is complete I will certainly buy one.

        Others may have a early-adopter or extremely green outlook and accept the value proposition for what it is. I accept and even appreciate that, as it drives sales and improvement in the product so when I am ready to buy, there may be more (and more affordable) options.

        • 2 votes
        #1.33 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:14 PM EST
        Reply
        TR-421173

        Why not?¿? Mother in law has one in her Prius, the volt has more room.

        • 13 votes
        Reply#2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:23 PM EST
        TR-421173

        One of my favorites is I saw a Prius in Colorado Springs a couple months ago that not only had a gun rack, but was done up in "real tree" camouflage. Don't think the pic is of the same one, but looking for the pic, there was more than one person who has done it.

        • 9 votes
        #2.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:25 PM EST
        douglasq

        My brother in Spokane put truck nuts on his Prius.

        Take that, Newt.

        • 17 votes
        #2.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:11 PM EST
        MikeBravo

        My mother in law mounted a gun rack on her broom. On a Volt would be a piece of cake.

        • 13 votes
        #2.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:51 PM EST
        TR-421173

        I am so mentioning that when I call mine this week. :) She will love it.

        • 7 votes
        #2.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:05 PM EST
        Heavy Artillery Rocker

        I got a gun rack on my backside, who needs one in a car? Even got a homemade shoe holster so?

        If you gotta have a rifle rack use a case, unless you're poaching where electric power would be more beneficial. Never seen a poacher use a rack anyway

        • 3 votes
        #2.5 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:02 PM EST
        MartyMoose

        OPEC will decrease the availability of petroleum to keep the prices high.

        Maybe they will and maybe they won't. Seriously, if this is your best argument for not drilling, it's pretty lame. It's loser-talk. How about we try? Would that be so bad? Unless you like our economy and our foreign policy slavishly centered on the Middle East.

          #2.6 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:18 PM EST
          MJMullinII

          Unless you like our economy and our foreign policy slavishly centered on the Middle East.

          I, personally, do not. I prefer the current Administrations tact of both increased drilling AND more effective use of energy.

          http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2012-02-17/shell-oil-spill-alaska-drilling/53132996/1

          The Arctic Coast is projected to have over 26 BILLION Barrels of recoverable oil. To put that in prospective, the Prudhoe Bay Oil Field (which is currently the largest ever discovered in North America) only contained 25 Billion.

          • 6 votes
          #2.7 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:53 PM EST
          SpoxLogic

          MJMullinll, that 25 Billion barrels sounds mighty plentiful, until you realize that the US consumes about 20 million barrels of oil PER DAY! (check here:http://maps.unomaha.edu/peterson/funda/sidebar/oilconsumption.html) That means that at just that rate, we'd go thru that oil in less than 4 years. That's why we don't tap our reserves becasue we'd deplete it in no time.

          Also, oil we produce would go out into the world market for anyone to buy, so we would only use a fraction of it. The reality is that we NEED to start incorporating renewable energy into our every day lives and industry. If we don't there will be hell to pay in 50 eyars or so.

          • 3 votes
          #2.8 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:41 PM EST
          MJMullinII

          At #2.8 --

          That's a real nice strategy for "no reason to ever do anything because it won't work anyway" but I'm afraid you're not going to play to a very friendly crowd with that message.

          The entire point of my post was to point out that the Obama Administration has been one of the biggest friends of domestic energy production in a long time.

          The reality is that we NEED to start incorporating renewable energy into our every day lives and industry

          Absolutely. Where I live, I pass 18-wheelers on the highway every day hauling Wind Turbine assemblies to be installed. Despite right-wing mocking, Wind has reached the point where the cost per watt is almost equal to the class of energy it produces.

          Which is too say, Wind Energy isn't built to replace Coal or Nuclear (base load, running 24 hours a day 7 days a week), it's built in lieu of Natural Gas fire "intermediate load" power stations. And right now, wind can match or beat the price of Natural Gas Electrical Generation.

          But you can't just tap your toes and immediately fix everything at once. I believe Wind/Solar, Natural Gas, and Nuclear are good goals for clean(ier) energy generation. I do believe increased domestic drilling -- regardless if every single barrel pulled out of the ground goes directly into my tank -- is a good thing.

          If we don't there will be hell to pay in 50 eyars or so

          Doubtful. The dirty little secret that no one (for their own reasons) wants to talk about is that at around $4 per gallon, 100% artificial Gasoline/Diesel/Kerosene fuels become cost effective.

          And when I say artificially, I'm talking about using electricity pulled from the grid to produce Hydrogen and CO2 from seawater which is then chemically altered into whatever hydrocarbon chain you want.

          Now of course you're talking about $1 Trillion plus in production facilities to meet our complete Petroleum Fuel demands...which is why you wouldn't even start until you knew for a fact that the fuels you were going to make were going to stay $4+ from this point on.

          But in all truth...the cost of building the infrastructure would probably be cheaper than the combined cost of the current Petroleum infrastructure if you count the current 100+ year history of the industry as a whole (speaking to refineries, wells, equipment, etc.)

          It would just need to be built in a shorter frame of time than the current system was.

          • 4 votes
          #2.9 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:25 PM EST
          SpoxLogic

          MJMullinll, I don't think we are arguing. Seems we are almost saying the same thing - that is, we need to start using more green energy while still drilling. I was just trying to point out that even though the billions of barrels of oil find isn't as much as some people think, and that means we need to speed up that incorporation of green energy.

          If we can speed up the use of green energy in the manufaturing sector I think we'll make more progress than concentrating on automobiles.

          • 1 vote
          #2.10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:53 PM EST
          Reply
          Door King

          But you could mount a hell of a Taser.

          • 11 votes
          Reply#3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:05 PM EST
          euterpe-1641499

          The more oil we buy, the more money we give to those who fund terrorists. I know lots of Republicans who know that fact only too well. Newt the Panderer needs to get a clue and stop bashing American made products.

          • 13 votes
          Reply#4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:45 PM EST
          MJMullinII

          Know what else currently can't be done with a Chevy Volt...keeping any on car lots that offer them.

          Yet another example of Progressive thinking proven correct in the face of right-wing knee-jerk criticism for anything they don't understand.

          But, hey...I'm sure Newt will pack in enough supporters with his one liners to make him not feel so lonely now in Third place.

          • 14 votes
          Reply#5 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:18 PM EST
          MartyMoose

          Know what else currently can't be done with a Chevy Volt...keeping any on car lots that offer them.

          Are you joking? Chevy sold less than 8,000 Volts in all of last year and they acknowledge that's less than they were hoping for. They sold over 26,000 Silverado trucks (where gun racks go)...IN JANUARY.

          • 1 vote
          #5.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:23 PM EST
          MJMullinII

          I'm sorry, did I say the Volt was #1 in Chevy's list...let me check...

          Nope...I, indeed, said that dealers who keep them cannot keep them on the lot.

          I'm not trying to get in a d#$k-measuring contest with who can burn more gas the fastest, I'm simply making the point that between the Volt, the Prius, and Leaf I see a LOT of Prius' and Leaf's on their respective lots.

          Sorry, in the battle for niché markets, I do believe Chevy has the advantage.

          • 8 votes
          #5.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:42 PM EST
          Heavy Artillery Rocker

          Out here where we work for a living and don't use trucks to "commute," it may be the last time we can get a decent truck before they start trying to make them an electric P.O.S.

          We purchased a new car this year and hopefully a new truck next year ('13) seems like it just might be a good one. Can't go elec. until they can guarantee 100 mi + R/T.

          • 4 votes
          #5.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 PM EST
          Timba65

          But you could get one that uses propane. Still cleaner than gas, but the price of propane is getting up there too. You are correct about the range, but if Republicans get their way it will never happen. It will take government investment to get there, whether it is direct or through tax policy. Obama's been pushing that while R's just bash it and block the end of subsidies for oil companies.

          • 4 votes
          #5.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:23 PM EST
          MJMullinII

          decent truck before they start trying to make them an electric P.O.S.

          Are you aware that Diesel Locomotives are technically called "Diesel-Electric" Locomotives.

          Want to know why? It's because ALL OF THE WORK of moving the train and it's potentially hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of TONS of cargo are all moved by 100 ELECTRIC power trains being fed by Diesel Electrical Generators.

          You think pure Diesel pickups have a lot of torque at 500 to 600 lbs.? It is possible to build a pickup in the model of a Diesel-Electric Locomotive that could easily pull 1000 to 1500lbs of torque.

          And because the electric drivetrain is separate from the actual generator, you could power with with anything from a Diesel/Gasoline/Propane/Natural Gas Internal Combustion engine to, eventually, a fuel-cell and never change how you drive.

          So I hope you're not too disappointed when pure-combustion drive trains go the way of the steam engine because it's going to happen sooner than you think and you're just going to have to live with having TWO to THREE times the power per gallon burned.

          I'm afraid the "yesterday forever" (which is what I call it when people opine for things never to change for any reason) is a perfectly fine idea...but doomed to failure by its very nature.

          • 5 votes
          #5.5 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:16 PM EST
          MartyMoose

          I'm sorry, did I say the Volt was #1 in Chevy's list...let me check...

          No you didn't. But guess what? I didn't claim you did. See what a dumb game that is? But you did say:

          Know what else currently can't be done with a Chevy Volt...keeping any on car lots that offer them.

          And that seems like the point you are trying to make is that we should all be impressed with hot sales of electric cars. I think I demonstrated rather effectively that electric car sales are more embarrassing than they are something to get excited about.

          So I hope you're not too disappointed when pure-combustion drive trains go the way of the steam engine

          The steam engine (and for that matter, the horse and buggy) were replaced by internal combustion because the gas automobile was cheaper, faster, stronger, and more reliable. When an electric car is superior in all these ways to a gas car, people will be buying them by the millions. No one is being unjustifiably nostalgic about gasoline cars. And it's not some anti-green bias. What we have now works better. And not just a little better. A lot better.

            #5.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:49 AM EST
            DR_ZORBA

            The internal combustion engine was NOT cheaper ,faster, OR more reliable when first developed . Electric motors are far more efficient , faster and more reliable than the ICE. Fuel was VERY cheap at the time and it was the major reason it was widely accepted. As stated earlier, the generator driven motors are very powerful and fuel efficient.

            • 4 votes
            #5.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:26 AM EST
            MartyMoose

            The internal combustion engine was NOT cheaper ,faster, OR more reliable when first developed

            Not when first developed, no. But when Henry Ford figured out how to make giant piles of cars cheaply, it was "game over." And that took a while.

            Believe me, when they can make an electric car that seats four, gets to 60mph in 5 seconds, isn't butt-ugly and costs less than $40,000, I'll be the first one in line. Of course it will have to be extremely cool, because I also love the sound my car makes and I don't know how an electric car is going to complete with that.

              #5.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:06 PM EST
              rimbauda

              If we wait until they can be developed cheaply, we will likely be buying our new technologies from those countries, with an eye on the future, who are investing, now, despite the bad economic climate, in the R&D and infrastructure they believe will fuel their future economies. The Chinese are anxious to adopt solar designs, designed and developed in the USA, while the USA finds them still not economical.

              • 3 votes
              #5.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:16 PM EST
              DR_ZORBA

              An electric car can blow the doors off anything currently on the road now. Maybe not the PRIUS or VOLT, but from 0 to 60 the gasoline engine is the looser.

              • 2 votes
              #5.10 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:23 AM EST
              Roy Batty

              The Chinese are anxious to adopt solar designs, designed and developed in the USA, while the USA finds them still not economical.

              It is a shame that it seems as a nation we have devolved into the habits of short-term thinking. Pure research is not purely economical and not always successful. There are no guarantees for a business case either, take Solyndra as an example.

              When the space program first started, time after time after time we saw rockets ignited then blow up on the pad, blow up in mid air, or turn to crash to the ground. But we did not only get into the air, but get to the moon. Today after a couple of mishaps, people would decry the failure, place the blame and kill the program.

              I keep seeing a commerical on TV from the Oil Interests as to how we have 100 years of oil and natural gas left, couched as support for their position. We should see that as a warning.

              • 5 votes
              #5.11 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:32 AM EST
              Timba65

              And that commercial you see is chock full of lies. It claims Canadian oil sands will be developed for US consumers, lie #1. It claims natural gas collected through fracking is completely safe, lie #2. It claims that through these technologies US can remain strong and competitive, lie #3. We either make a strong push towards renewables now or the world will leave us behind. If we wait until the energy industry does it through private channels it will be too late, it will take government investment and choking the government down until it can be drowned in a bathtub will make that impossible. Same thing for electric car batteries. Obama is doing what he can to push for more funding in that arena, it would be nice if Congress were to take a little interest in our future instead of continuing to subsidize the past.

              • 4 votes
              #5.12 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:21 PM EST
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              Adler315

              And when it comes to a pol like Gingrich, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

              • 11 votes
              Reply#6 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:36 PM EST
              TR-421173

              And he isn't a sow's "ear". ;)

              • 9 votes
              #6.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:06 PM EST
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              AlphaDogReporter

              Probably can't get his fat ass in it either.

              • 12 votes
              Reply#7 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 PM EST
              RNDiane

              You are so right. And his ego won't fit either.

              • 11 votes
              #7.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:35 PM EST
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              RNDiane

              I bet you I could wedge one on there. But I have handguns mostly now and they are easier to mount.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#8 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:34 PM EST
              Topcat Roosevelt

              What Gun Rack can you fit in your Mercedes Benz s-class AMG S-65, msrp $210,000, you faux populist POS? Your done fool, now, get out of the race so Santorum will be the GOP candidate already

              • 10 votes
              Reply#9 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:04 PM EST
              Roy Batty

              Heh, for that car I'm sure the James Bond Signature Model twin pop-up .45 cal machine gun option is available.

              • 12 votes
              #9.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:15 PM EST
              Porter Rockwell

              I wonder if you can put a gun rack in the Popemobile that Sanctitorium is going to ride around in?

              • 8 votes
              #9.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:25 PM EST
              Topcat Roosevelt

              Right Roy, so simple to use, even a draft dodging hawk could do it!

              Lots of Headroom in that Popemobile Porter , He cant blast his foes with a torrent of Santorum from a water cannon!

              • 7 votes
              #9.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:53 PM EST
              Heavy Artillery Rocker

              a torrent of Santorum from a water cannon!

              Eeeewwww!

              • 7 votes
              #9.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:57 PM EST
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              Timba65

              Gingrich makes a claim that domestic oil production is being decimated by Obama that is completely false. Under Bush domestic oil production fell from 5.8 billion to 5 billion barrells annually. Since Obama came into office domestic oil production has risen as much as 11%. Furthermore oil industry expert have many times claimed that oil speculation is responsible for 30-40% of the cost. Republicans in Congress refuse to address oil speculation in the commodities market. If you want to know who is the most responsible for the cost of gasoline and you are a Republican politician, I would suggest looking in the mirror. trying to lay the blame on Obama simply makes you look like a particularly ignorant Neandrathal.(no offense to cavemen.)

              • 8 votes
              Reply#10 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:08 PM EST
              Roy Batty

              Careful with the COH, Timba65.

              Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

              Otherwise, you bring an important point to the discussion, that there are a myriad of factors the will effect the price at the pump. The rise in production in Obama's term certainly did not contribute to the price going up.

              • 6 votes
              #10.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:19 PM EST
              Porter Rockwell

              I'm curious, Roy. Just who did you think Timba was making a personal attack against? Neanderthals?

              • 5 votes
              #10.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:28 PM EST
              Roy Batty

              I'm curious, Roy. Just who did you think Timba was making a personal attack against? Neanderthals?

              My mistake. I've been reading from Obama bashers all day. Timba65, please accept my apology.

              Funny though, Porter!

              • 7 votes
              #10.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:38 PM EST
              Timba65

              I was just wondering why stating that Gingrich looked like an ignorant Neandrathal was a violation of the COH, but I can certainly appreciate the confusion. Reading bash statements too much can take your mind for a twirl. We all know how much intelligence it takes to bash someone without reason, by my latest measure it's less than a thimbleful. Not that bashers don't have any, they just choose not to show it.

              • 4 votes
              #10.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:09 PM EST
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              D Luniz-1282741

              There is honestly a part of me that would welcome the Repubs wining in Nov
              cause these fools would fail so badly, and cause so much ruin would happen that they wouldnt be able to even show their faces in public
              but Im not sure that its worth a pyrric victory like that

              • 4 votes
              Reply#11 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:36 PM EST
              SpoxLogic

              D Luniz, I msutsay that I've had that ver ythought as well. But, then I extrapolate fro mwhat I am seeing in some of teh Tea Party controlled sates and I come back to reality.

              If the Repubs win everything this November I fear the US would become like Kansas or Michigan. One is fast becoming a Theocratic state (Kansas) the other is becoming a despotic one (Michigan). 100 point to anyone who can tell me why I say Michigan is becoming despotic.

              • 2 votes
              #11.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:47 PM EST
              D Luniz-1282741

              you talking about that town that went bankrupt so a City Mangager was appointed by the state?

                #11.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:09 PM EST
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                keepfreepress

                Well, let's give that task to the team at "Top Gear" or an expert "chop shop" or "pimp my ride". I think they could quite easily engineer a gun rack on just about anything. Gingrich isn't doing himself any favors by siding with dependence on foreign oil.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#12 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:54 PM EST
                Ted II

                Newt is so physically disabled for the Presidency.......if nothing else......

                Hi!

                • 5 votes
                Reply#13 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:56 PM EST
                Ted II

                Now, let's talk about the kind of petrol a 747 or 767 uses......if we have any Commercial Pilots on here!

                Delta got rid of it's 880 's way back when because of the petrol they used.....so.........

                • 4 votes
                #13.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:25 PM EST
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                steven-791492

                I bet, given my hillbilly engineering abilities, I can build a gun rack for a volt.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#14 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:19 PM EST
                charger383

                steven, I bet it would look good too.

                • 5 votes
                #14.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:36 PM EST
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                charger383

                Newt, Gun racks are normally for trucks. The Volt is a car. Almost all gun racks I have seen in cars are in cop cars.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#15 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:25 PM EST
                are you crazy?-1425777

                Looks like Newt hasn't spent much time in Pennsylvania

                • 5 votes
                Reply#16 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:27 PM EST
                skeptic-227981

                More gratuitous republithuggery. Is this guy the poster child for the right wing version of Tourette's Syndrome? He can't hold a conversation without sticking some weird button-pushing, mindless, deliberately erroneous statement in it, can he?

                • 6 votes
                Reply#17 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:34 PM EST
                AlKhidr

                Putting a gun rack on a Volt is kind of like Newt hanging his ardent claims of commitment on three marriages.

                • 8 votes
                Reply#18 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:35 PM EST
                Really?-2872425

                We really shouldn't worry about the oil use. After all, when Gingrich is president we'll colonize the moon and then drill for all the oil there. We don't need NASA to help colonize the moon, we'll just use minimum wage labor force from outsourcing corporations. The pipeline, we'll just put the Keystone folks in charge of that to create jobs that dam socialist econut took away. Should provide the good ole boys with plenty oil.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#19 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:46 PM EST
                Ed-2160927

                Neut climbed out of bed this day and thought. Its Sunday Iam campaigning in Georgia, Now lets see GM has made a bundle, the price of gas is up, Iran just shut off oil to England and Europe, Lets talk about guns and electric cars. Wow why didn't he throw in the price of beer, a good hunting dog or two, and the price of ammo. And oh by the way what about those Georgia peaches and not the ones that grow on trees. What a dip,

                • 3 votes
                Reply#20 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:03 PM EST
                ScienceGuy-356641

                Snark over substance. Pretense over policy. That's all that the Newt has left ... as he desperately clings to his guns and gas-guzzlers.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#21 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:15 PM EST
                Mofongo

                Newt's argument highlights both the strength of the GOP's messaging and the failure of most Americans BACKWARD SOUTHERN RACIST CHRISTIANS to understand basic economics.

                There, I fixed the error in the addendum to the article.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#22 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:46 PM EST
                Mofongo

                Newt cannot grasp the very basic economic concepts of supply and demand and yet he has no problem presenting himself as the intellectual candidate from the Tea Party. Sadly, Newt is probably safe making that claim.

                Or, someone more cynical might point out Newt's apparent lack of respect for the people he is lying to with this false economic logic and simplistic policy solutions. If one were really cynical, you might believe that Newt has complete contempt for the people whose votes he's lusting after.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#23 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 PM EST
                demmie-1555521

                Watch Newt lip sync on "Funny or die".

                "NEWT GINGRICH" — a Bad Lip Reading Soundbite

                • 2 votes
                Reply#24 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:10 AM EST
                don masonDeleted
                Spike Evans

                Sounds like Newtie is getting speech writing advice from Sarah Palin. Isn't she the one who coined the phrase about how you can't put lipstick on a pig, or something to that effect?

                • 5 votes
                Reply#26 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:16 PM EST
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