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Illegal immigrants' place in the 'underground' economy often reflects culture as well as caution

Seeded on Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
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Work a job and you can be paid in many ways. By check. By credit card. By automatic deposit into a bank account. But traditional cash payments still play a major role in Arizona, often greasing the wheels of commerce for illegal immigrants.

Up to half of illegal immigrants, perhaps 152,000 or more in the state, are believed to work in a large shadow economy, where workers are compensated in cash, don't report the income and don't pay income taxes.

But immigrants do pay taxes. When they shop in stores or eat out in restaurants, they pay sales taxes, helping contribute to 55 percent of Arizona's revenue. If they rent, a portion of their rent helps pay their landlord's property tax. Those who own legitimate businesses pay payroll taxes.

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From Reuters: Nicaraguan mother Lorena Aguilar hawks a television set and a few clothes on the baking sidewalk outside her west Phoenix apartment block.

A few paces up the street, her undocumented Mexican neighbor Wendi Villasenor touts a kitchen table, some chairs and a few dishes as her family scrambles to get out of Arizona ahead of a looming crackdown on illegal immigrants.

"Everyone is selling up the little they have and leaving," said Villasenor, 31, who is headed for Pennsylvania. "We have no alternative. They have us cornered."

The two women are among scores of illegal immigrant families across Phoenix hauling the contents of their homes into the yard this weekend as they rush to sell up and get out before the state law takes effect on Thursday.

Lost rent. Lost retail business. Lost sales tax. Lost property tax. Lost AZ payroll taxes. Were these considered when Arizona wrote this law?

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Reply#1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:41 PM EDT
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If the Arizona economy suffers from this, should the US bail them out?

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Reply#2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:42 PM EDT
jdl-28

Arizona will not suffer from this at all, business will end up going into another area, the people are illegals and many American would take the construction jobs for they was doing them until employer fire them for cheaper labor, as for fast food many that I have been in for the last two months seem to be having American working again.

Being that they are low pay why should we be paying for their medical, or giving them food stamp, The person who hire them should be footing the bill for their medical and everything else .Janitorial companies been hiring illegal for years making a very high profit, but their service is poor for they do not know how to clean and stealing from tenants is very high. So I guess the service we receive isn't worth having, when American was doing the job our service was ten time better and no stealing from tenants, but the companies cut the wage down so American citizens couldn't support their family on it. It isn't that American will not take the jobs the companies prefer higher profit and hire illegals instead, but they will tell you we do not hire illegals and laughing all the way out of the door. I know a few citizens who try to work for a janitorial companies but the Hispanic workers refuse to work with them. Hispanic stick together and that why went one get into a companies with in two month they are all Hispanic and the citizens are gone.

Illegals are hurting this country the people who is doing business with them, want them to stay for their cheap labor and will lie to us all just to keep them here. I look at it this way if you do business with illegals to bad if you business go down after they leave that your problem, not the citizens of this country you didn't have respect for.

    Reply#3 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:01 AM EDT
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    jdl-28

    Thanks You clearly have sound ideas about hiring illegals.

    The stories allude to what they also spend, that being problematic when they leave for elsewhere. Do you think that loss of income will become an issue?

      #3.1 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:38 AM EDT
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      weimmom

      Fewer Jobs, More Immigrants: Despite Loss of 1 Million Jobs, 13.1 Million Arrived 2000-09 :: http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2010/11/fewer_jobs_more.php

      2011 Visas & Foreign Workers
      http://www.numbersusa.com/content/hot-topics/foreign-worker-timeout.html

      Shocker: Over a Million Immigrants Land American Jobs from 2008-2010 (many illegally)
      http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/20/us-usa-immigrants-employmentexclusive-idUSTRE70J37P20110120

      The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration
      http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_economic_costs.html

      Illegal Immigrants With Fake Social Securities Get Tax Refunds
      http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/nov/illegal-immigrants-fake-social-securities-get-tax-refunds

      Pres Dwight Eisenhower successfully deported millions of illegal aliens Mexican in a program called “Operation Wetback”,
      http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-02-20/blog/a-more-perfect-union/ladd-it-isnt-impossible-to-stop-illegal-immigration

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